Sir David Attenborough on the consequences of climate change, contemporary broadcasting - and the day that inspired his career |
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David Attenborough was eight years old when he discovered the immensity of Mother Nature’s miscellany. It happened on a trip to the vast Natural History Museum in London.
“It wasn’t the big dinosaur [diplodocus] that impressed me the most,” he recalls. “As a boy I was a bit saddened to see it was a copy – a plaster cast. Bit of a swizz, I thought.
"No, what impressed me was the infinite variety of things – going round the gallery with a million different butterflies. Seeing the multiplicity of the natural world left an impression on me.”
At 87, Attenborough has been almost everywhere, seen almost everything. He is able to look back at the breadth of his broadcasting work with pride. His programmes have covered every aspect of the natural world (“a reasonably coherent survey”, he judges) and have left an enormous impression on several generations of telly viewers. He is – according to a Reader’s Digest poll – the most trusted person in the United Kingdom.
He is also determined that a pacemaker fitted in 2013 will not stop him achieving yet more. Talking to The Big Issue shortly before Christmas, the great naturalist of our age is visibly, boyishly excited about his latest project for Sky – David Attenborough’s Natural History Museum Alive, which uses CGI and 3D technology to bring the museum’s extinct inhabitants to life. Attenborough comes face-to-face with a sabre-toothed Smilodon, a 33-ft gigantophis snake and a huge, fluffy moa bird.
It makes for delightful viewing. But wandering round the Natural History Museum before the interview, I found myself feeling a bit jaded – overwhelmed, perhaps – by humanity’s masterful documenting powers. We have set up live webcams of lion kills, surveyed the inky-dark recesses of the ocean floor, stuck cameras into every conceivable kind of burrow, nest and den.
If we are getting this good at filming living things (and some dead ones too), isn’t there a danger we’re running out of discoveries?
In terms of conservation, there’s so much to be done“Oh, nowhere near – there’s so much more,” says Attenborough. “The fun of this programme has been to show some of the [extinct] things that we thought we knew were actually wrong, and speculate what they might have looked like when alive… And in terms of conservation, there’s so much to be done. Every three months you see a nice picture of a bird in the newspaper that says underneath, ‘This species is disappearing’. So we ought to be looking out more for what we have.”
Climate change means we – and everything else on the planet we take pictures of – are in pretty big trouble. Despite initial reservations about mixing environmentalist polemic and his role as an objective BBC figurehead, Attenborough has become more open about the huge difficulties we face in a warming world.
“Kids should know,” he says. “They are the next generation that’s going to have to cope with a lot and decide what they’re going to do. Kids don’t get overwhelmed by all that much. Kids are optimistic little creatures. It’s middle-aged and elderly blokes like me who get depressed about it.
"My feeling is that what they want to know is the truth and the idea you can hush up climate change because it might make the poor dears miserable is not a good idea.”
He worries that very big changes are now inevitable. How does he rate our chances of survival? “We’re not going to become extinct in the next 100 years, 200 years or 500 years,” he says. “But we may well be less well-off, less comfortable than we are now. There will be more of us in the immediate years ahead, whatever we do now.
"So the natural world will be under greater threat. There may be things we can see now that they wouldn’t be able to see. The effects are very difficult to predict so it’s either a very great or foolish man who sticks his neck out and says he knows what’ll happen.
If climate change continues, as one suspects it might, a lot of fertile lands will be under water“But by and large – if you’re a cook or a chemist – you know that if you heat things up reactions take place,” he continues. “The Earth is heating up – it’s bubbling more, it’s fizzing more. If climate change continues, as one suspects it might, a lot of fertile lands will be under water, a lot of lands that are fertile now will become desert and there will be huge changes in population.
"We’re well placed in this country, and we’ll have to make decisions about that. Do we allow everybody who wants to come to live here to come here? It’s tricky.”
Attenborough also seems perturbed about the tricky path ahead for public service broadcasting. He is aware how fast things are changing. Almost all trends are now at odds with the sober, Reithian values of the BBC.
“There will be an awful lot of do-your-own television,” he says. “You know better than me, kids are making their own stuff and talking to themselves – and they don’t particularly want old guys sitting in London telling them things. That’s becoming global. The factors, the influences, the ideas, the exchanges, globally, are changing hugely.
"If you’re in an optimistic mood, you think, ‘That’s pretty good – everyone is involved’. On the other hand you can see it as mob rule, and wonder if anyone will do anything intelligent or far-seeking or altruistic.
“When I was working 30 years ago you did 13 one-hour episodes in a series, but now you have the absurdity of television planners telling you you’re only in for a two-part series,” he adds. “I mean, how fatuous is that? So I worry that contemporary television is losing ambition, is losing zest to tackle the hard things.”
The interview finishes on a brighter note. Attenborough waxes lyrical about the birdlife at the wetlands centre not far from his home in Richmond. “They keep coming, of their own volition, to the biggest conurbation in western Europe. I like that. There’s something optimistic about that.”
And then the nation’s most trusted man is off, a meeting with Prince William and the Duchess of Cambridge ahead at a special screening of his 3D extravaganza.
It is tempting to imagine, gloomily, there will never be another like Attenborough. But perhaps, in the spirit of optimism, it is better to imagine that somewhere out there is an eight-year-old boy, taking his first trip to the museum, getting ready, one day, to show us a new way of looking at the world.